Phil Marlor

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2007, 01:13:23 pm »
Want to get rid of bed bugs/mites etc.

Pull back your quilt and open wide a window before you go out to work,

I'm no way knocking the product, but this whole Eco/Green thing is just another way of making money, the Government have been doing it for years.

We have been sourounded by all these creatures since time began, you will never get rid of them, so learn to live with them, get your carpets cleaned once a year and loads of ventilation when possible.

I'm sure the heat from my TM and pre spray with M-power is just as good.

Phil

Stevenage, Herts

LUTON TOWN 3-0 SUNDERLAND

stevegunn

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2007, 03:38:38 pm »
Nick I know your reading this just to put the record straight the press piece that I had published was given to me by Gavin and I did not offer Dry fusion to them because it dried quicker why would I the t/m drying times were ample.I offered them the three packages value,allergy/baby/pet and protect package which not one of them went down the allergstop route.Customers are just not prepared to pay for it full stop.My wife(diploma in asthma) told you it was a non starter from the off maybe I should have listened to her instead of you I would have saved myself some money.So we didn't put any work into AS that's why we were not a success ::)

As for peoples businesses growing off the back of allergstop, do you not think the forums have had more to do with that than allergstop we all speak to each other and send each other ideas nothing to do with AS.Ian Harper has give more marketing tips out on this forum in the last couple of weeks than you ever were forthcoming with.

Since parting company with yourself my business has gone from strength to strength no false promises,no more falling for your sales patter about "how wonderful this is" and most of all I'm saving money.


Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2007, 05:05:59 pm »
I was one of the people who was hoping and praying people wouldn't fall for this so called network, but unfortunately many did and lost large amounts of money. I believe that Solution knew that the network would flop and the whole thing would be a win win situation either way for them.
 
I choose NOT to deal with Solution and never will. 

Regards
Peter

Derek_Walker

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2007, 08:33:44 pm »
With respect Peter, to say that a company would start something with the intentions of it not working just based on your belief, is an irresponsible statement to make. Anyone wishing to become part of a Franchise / network or any other kind of business which involves parting with cash is taking a risk, there are no guaranties. It is up to the individual to make it work. Allergstop is a ground breaking product which if used and marketed properly is a great usp for your business in many different ways, not just the allergy market.
I use many products from different suppliers Solutions is one of them and I have personally found Nick and all his staff to be very helpful and deliveries are always on time.
Talking of deliveries, ordered some bits from a firm in Texas on Monday they were delivered today, now that is service.

PaulKing

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2007, 09:26:21 pm »
well they are selling solutions stuff in aldi now cheaper than you can get it for the source go figure! hell it works well i bought a few bottles at 1.38 just want to know what it is as might sell a few on if i can get the source.
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PaulKing

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2007, 09:45:41 pm »
this is it which spotter is it from the range anyone know
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dave401uk

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2007, 10:01:13 pm »
MIKE1946, it cost me, so what makes you think its for free ::)

Dave
Its never a pass of the wand,just a master stroke.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2007, 10:07:45 pm »
I think that AS was developed to reduce the symptoms of the trigger ie dustmite poo, if you are not affected by the poo then you don't need to use it.

AS was always going to go to a select few, allergy sufferers are on the up maybe because there is more awareness but believing that a product can help and also a premium price will always reduce the size of the market to a select amount.

Shaun

My wife has AS a big one!


stevegunn

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2007, 10:08:36 pm »
True to form received email from Nick telling me I'm twisting things for my own end.Thats rich coming from him :o

carpetguy

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2007, 10:46:28 pm »
The generally accepted belief, is, it's the enzyme, within the gut of the microscopic Mite that causes Asthma, but it might just be a trigger, like fine dust, or other airborne allergens.

It's more likely, that the problem, is genetic, but can be controlled, through changes in breathing and some physical therapies ( not physiotherapy )

Sprays, cleaning regimes, better airflow, in homes can all help to control Asthma, but won't eliminate Asthma, whereas the changes in breathing technique and specific physical therapies can.

There will always be occasions, when changes in diet alone, will eliminate what appears to be Asthma, but has been an allergic reaction.

As Phil says, open your windows, allow the cool air to circulate through bed sheets and turn off bedroom heaters.

Obviously, it's a good thing, to have mattresses vacuumed regularly and products which have proven to kill dustmites have to be a good thing.

But............don't claim to have a cure for Asthma, even therapists, like myself never claim, to " cure "it's not allowed, even with a list of clients, whose lives have been changed, some, for years, it's not allowed to claim, that you can "cure"

stevegunn

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2007, 10:49:04 pm »
The best you can offer is to alleviate the symptoms

NigelD

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2007, 11:00:39 pm »
I know people who have a mattress cleaning franchise.

In some parts of the country, notably London & South East they do very well. In others it is a different story. Does that mean the franchise doesn't work or is a con.. NO.

You need to know your target audience. If you have cleaned carpets for a length of time do you find an interest in allergy related problems/solutions if yes then AS is probably worth looking at. If not why spend the money.

Personally I find there is a low interest level, but I know that I can either provide that service via AS or point customers to the website. It is IMO a niche market that needs to be worked very hard, something I dont feel like doing.

As for knocking Solutions, if you have invested money then you are bound feel to let down and angry that things didn' work out as you hoped. But surely we can all relate stories of marketing that failed or we didn't have budget for. It would have been better for everyone Solutions and users if it had worked, but the buying public seem to be sceptical or fickle on the matters.


Nigel

Len Gribble

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2007, 03:05:34 am »
For what it’s worth I have a neighbours and brother in-law both suffers, like the product but would not pay the cost price, ??? also gave out the aerosols to know customers who are suffers.

More or less gave the rest of it away at Ashby’s open day last year (it was from the starter pack). Rest went down the bog as it turned a funny colour. 8) Dave one for you! ;D

Only problem I see with some companies is a jumping jack flash attitude, time to move on. In America I think they call it a sting!

NigelD

(they do very well) this begs the question! How do you know that? :)

Steve

Nice one! rich ???



Think I will stay as a splash and dash that what customers want.


Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

carpetguy

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2007, 07:52:04 am »
Len.

What have you been up to .............just come in, or about to go out..........IT'S JUST AFTER 3 AM

You summed it up in one sentence............" like it, but not at that price "

Also, you are right about the "opportunist mentality," which, is good business.........to join a trend, and jump off when another comes along, whether it's ethical, is another story.

As I've mentioned before, when One Step was launched in the UK a similar marketing exercise was set up, but without the expense and membership.

One Step was sold as the perfect product to use with the CFR system and there were additional products for hard floors Arkallo and Crystallo ( spelling might be wrong ) plus a ceiling tile cleaner.

Sound familiar.................the model was already there and as I've said before, it could have been handled better.

Nick V-W is first and foremost, a salesman, and a pretty good one, otherwise, why woul the likes of John Bolton, Kieth ex CFR and others joined his organisation.

He will not be seen as a long term threat to other suppliers, he's actually doing them a favour, by introducing new products, creating a market...........then what happens ?

The products get copied, or reinvented and everyone joins in.

Difference is..............you don't have to join the club and you don't have to worry about catchy logos, there will be others along shortly






NigelD

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2007, 08:10:30 am »
Len

Regarding how I know. I speak with the franchisor.

The point I was trying to make and possibly not well, is that in certain areas of the country there are sufficient people who will pay for health led services to make it viable as a business.

My experience is that most people want dirty carpets looking clean  :)

Nigel

craigp

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #55 on: February 22, 2007, 08:30:15 am »
can't remember where i read:  'never think that what you sell is more important than who you sell it too.'

carpetguy

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2007, 08:45:29 am »
Nigel

You are correct about people being sceptical when something new appears, but it's more to do with, a lack of conviction and we are up against TV programs, which always go for the drama, rather than the reality.

They would rather have some, so called Doctor, who knows nothing about the cleaning
going around, telling them to replace their carpets with laminated flooring.

Problem is, to talk about dust mites, is counter productive IMO, as the public will look for the easy option, or what they perceive to be the easy option.

Laminated flooring !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Educating the masses, is something you can do, one to one, or in your marketing, or you could pressure your trade association to hold seminars.

rob


carpetguy

Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2007, 08:57:54 am »
Good comment Craig, basic marketing, really.

rob

Matt Read

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2007, 12:06:23 pm »
Isn't it about time this allergstop thing was laid to rest,Woodbridge cost me approx a grand for a failed truckmount order ,i tried to have my say on here and it was removed within an hour, these allergstop threads seem to go on forever,surely by now the aggrieved have had there say. I assume everyone who bought into it at the time made their own choice or they could have used the court route to get recompense.

Matt

spindle

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Re: AllergStop Network - Solution Uk
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2007, 01:11:52 pm »
i think that if a/s stuff wasnt so expensive it might do well.....

can you see a average family with an average income able to afford an extra bill each month........
tv.license=15pm
gas/electric=80pm
council tax=???
allergstop=26pm(roughly if had carpets cleaned x3 per year....... nvw)

the people that would benifit most from a/s (families living in damp/rundown council estates)are the people that cannot afford it!!

just a thought........




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