[Mike Halliday]

There is a 100yr old marketing slogan that is very apt for Derek & TACCA

'Everyone laughed when I sat down at the piano.... Until I started to play'

Everyone laughed at Derek, the new starter, he was a jester, and this is why in the beginning people were quite accepting of his big TACCA idea, he was a joke who couldn't organise a p up in a brewery let him have a go at what all the big names in carpet carpet cleaning ( big names in their own minds )  thought of doing....... but never did.

Then  there came a problem      the joker might make it work!! So the big names tried to be clever and they jumped aboard (like they thought it was a great idea from the beginning) maybe even whispering in his ear about how they could help.

I love Derek & TACCA  just because he did what other talked about, it's a poke in the eye for all the big names

[first impressions]

i would just like to say i have really liked the day out tacca every year,  and come away  with some new ideas to help my business so thank you Derek, good bye for now girls just going to assassinate some one before all the work as gone ,this is my opinion Albert of firstimpressions.

[Jonathan Evans]

I am not a member but we'll done Derek, you have made it work and if it makes your fortune then good luck to you.
As for the fee etc if it makes people a good Roi then it will grow and be more successful if not it will wither and die. Point is Derek has worked hard for it so I wish him all the best.

[derek west]

I’ve always liked the phrase, “you can’t argue with stupid” so I never do, (so if I’ve not replied to peoples antagonistic posts you know why    ) So this is not me arguing with the stupid people on here (weebly lol) it’s just me putting my side of the story, in the hope that the few people actually getting sucked in by the few failed and jealous carpet cleaners out there, can see both sides of the story and make their own mind up.
In the early days of TACCA my eyes were soon opened as to why the NCCA struggle to get anything done, and it’s all down to the diverse opinions we all have, even the sensible ones of us still see things differently and so causes debate and more debate, ending in a stale-mate of opinions, things then get shelved and nothing much gets done.
Quite a few people told me to join the NCCA if I wanted to change it, I know 2 guys that did just that and got nowhere, they soon saw the problems could not be solved and I think both moved on, I on the other hand pursued the TACCA angle and am proud of the fact, yes fact, that TACCA and the people who supported TACCA gave the NCCA one almighty kick up the harris. I think most of the board would, in part, agree with that.
So my job was done but TACCA just kept growing and even gaining some respect from peers I had the utmost respect for myself.
TACCA could no longer go down the association route without setting up a committee similar to the NCCA, I had no problems with that, in fact part of me and my wife  actually wanted everyone to vote to keep it, or should I say turn it into a fully fledged association with a full committee, unfortunately I would have no part in this committee, I’d found out through being in the thick of running TACCA that the association route and all the debating was not something I wanted to waste my life on, why would i? I may as well have joined the NCCA and spent my own valuable time trying to persuade people to my ideas, to no avail of course.
So I asked everyone if they wanted me to run TACCA or if they wanted to turn it into an association.
Those who could be bothered to vote, voted unanimously 140 to zero in favour of me running TACCA.
Now just let me point out, if I set TACCA up to make money I would of either asked for membership money a long time ago or I would of quit TACCA a long time ago. There is no money in TACCA, proper websites do cost money, (weebly lol, sorry, still chuckling at that one) will there be any money in the future, no idea, chances are if there is any profit in the future it will be spent on getting even more leads for its members.
I want TACCA to work, with a passion, it’s been mine and my wife’s life for 5 years so of course I want it to work. If I put the hours into running my own business, I would generate far more that any surplus TACCA could generate so say what you like, I do it because I want it to work.
It seems there are a lot of people trying to bring others down to their own level to make themselves seem better, maybe they should spend time trying to better themselves , bringing themselves up to others levels rather than the opposite.
Keep making stuff up about me guys, the clever people see right through it.
Ps… Framing that one Mike
Pps…. I’ll try my best to get members of TACCA work and value for their membership money. Educating the public and helping its members grow their own businesses along the way. That’s what TACCA was built on, Not going to happen overnight but with money and support, some group participation and suggestions I reckon we can do this, TACCA’s done alright with no money for 5 years, so surely TACCA deserves a chance to try with some financial backing.
Ppps, TACCA does generate leads. With funding it will generate a lot more. Its £150 to join, whats that? HSL and a through lounge?.  And with the discount vouchers and money off training  it’s a no brainer. Everyone has had 5 years to use TACCA to its advantage, I know quite a few people who have taken great advantage of this, I know of many more who have benefitted directly and indirectly from TACCA in some way, Support it and watch it support you even more.
Pppps…. weebly lol.

[jasonl]

Antagonistic posts ?
A question was asked, opinions were given.

Failed carpet cleaners, hmm the tacca operating from a rented house in a crappy Cheshire town.... hmmmm

[Jennifer w]

oh no, I think the photo of the second hand Mercedes may be making a re appearance........

[jasonl]

no, times are hard, had to get a new audi instead.

[Hilton]

Why the vitriol, chap starts something people  want to join it and seem to enjoy the process, chap needs to recover costs and time so puts a negligible £5.00 a week value on it , some people don't mind paying some people do. I think its called business something everyone on here conducts in one form or another yet for some odd reason, that makes no sense, some take issue with it.

Then questions are asked as to why CC want to group together and ask each other questions, the very thing everyone does on here,    .
Very odd.

[Carpet Master]

Take a look at his latest videos on Youtube and you will clearly see where all the accumulated 'annual day out' money is going.

Ask yourself this, do you really want to  subsidise somebody of this caliber?

He is in it to make money out of you, simples.

Before you part with your hard earned cash , challenge him to see the 'alliances' lol accounts. He won't show them to you for obvious reasons.

It's a pay for listing and it will be interesting to see the numbers after the expiry date lol

The silent majority will speak.

 

[sean oregan]

Well said Derek

But unfortunately the circus has allowed their clowns use of the internet.
I would bet some of the comments come indirectly from their master on another forum.

[sean oregan]

oh no, I think the photo of the second hand Mercedes may be making a re appearance........

lol quality

[Jennifer w]

Hi,

Personally I can't see the problem with Derek making money out of an organisation that he runs and spends his time on.

I think it leaves a very simple choice, either join or don't..What I don't understand is why you'd have a problem with tacca if you don't want to join anyhow...

We arnt members, mainly because we don't need to be, but I bet it can't possibly be as bad as other organisations we've attended over the years...

Some of the "discovery" type days I attended at one particular supplier(now under new ownership) around 15 years ago were quite simply breathtakingly comical..

I'm still convinced some of it was a Jeremy beadle type set up.

Cheers

Jen

[jasonl]

Hi,

Personally I can't see the problem with Derek making money out of an organisation that he runs and spends his time on.

I think it leaves a very simple choice, either join or don't..What I don't understand is why you'd have a problem with tacca if you don't want to join anyhow...

We arnt members, mainly because we don't need to be, but I bet it can't possibly be as bad as other organisations we've attended over the years...

Some of the "discovery" type days I attended at one particular supplier(now under new ownership) around 15 years ago were quite simply breathtakingly comical..

I'm still convinced some of it was a Jeremy beadle type set up.

Cheers

Jen

'Can't see a problem'

I can and so can everyone else who won't join.

[sean oregan]

Same people that are slating Derek are the same people who slated me for suggesting their master doesn't now a chemical plant and that was proved right.
Don't like it don't join.........simples

But for some the green eyed monster within them is uncontrollable.

I have joined because I know  (and so should others) that del can't keep putting his own money into it for the benefit of others. Ok some say they have never got a lead out of  tacca (nor have I yet) but why would Derek spend his own money and time providing leads for me.
Derek will get there with tacca I have no doubt and I have more faith in him than I do in small minded jealous trolls.

If this time next year I have still not got anything or seen things improving I will evaluate my membership.

[CleanerCarpets]

Sean - i am not disagreeing with you (or agreeing with you!)

Its just your comments seem a little two faced - on the one hand you yourself have been 'Trolling' Nick on here for the last few weeks and yet when someone else shares their opinion on something they are small minded and green eyed!

[tim handley]

i feel a new group coming on, for those who dont want to  pay up to join tacca for whatever reason,  but also dont wish tacca/Derek any ill feeling, and also have no wish to join in with all the slagging off (in both groups), just want to get on with  the job in hand, ie carpet cleaning and a bit of banter at night on the forums/fb groups.......

[Carpet Master]

I have joined because I know  (and so should others) that del can't keep putting his own money into it for the benefit of others. Ok some say they have never got a lead out of  tacca (nor have I yet) but why would Derek spend his own money and time providing leads for me.
Derek will get there with tacca I have no doubt and I have more faith in him than I do in small minded jealous trolls.

If this time next year I have still not got anything or seen things improving I will evaluate my membership.

Hi Sean,

He is not putting his own money into it, clearly, the annual meets are more than covering the costs, he even says there is a "nice pot of money available" on one of his videos (he probably has taken this video down now to save face) . My concern is that the money is not accountable, there are no checks and balances. Ok, it's his website, but it was first branded as an Association which by Law should have been set up properly with a Committee structure and Treasurer etc, he couldn't do that that for obvious reasons so he changed it to an Alliance. If cleaner's want to pay for him for a listing on a website then fair enough, however, when it comes to parting with my £300 (yes, it will be that amount by the time you have paid your annual subscription and attended the yearly day out training - so he will be making twice on you) and because he has set it up as a one man band outfit, I would want to see yearly published accounts, where my money was going and a clear policy & advertising strategy for at least the following 2 years that directly benefits the alliance. I do not want to see my money (surplus or otherwise) and others being ploughed into his business or back pocket as I can see happening right now.

In your own admission and in his own words, a lot of cleaner's have had no work from the website. Why don't you ask him why not? Ask to see his advertising strategy? Ask to see a clear plan to get its name out there to the consumer? By his own admission, again, he hasn't got one, so in my view as it stands now it is only a paid viewing on a website which anyone can set up. The issue is, where is all the money going? Where will all the money he will be getting going? How will your hard cash be invested into this alliance? Where is it heading? What are its aims and goals? None of these questions can be answered. Those cleaner's who have paid him money so far are his mates or guys who just want to follow the flock to stay 'one of the group'. That doesn't 'cut the mustard' with me, I would want a clear and precise business plan laid out with its full intentions known before considering parting with any cash.

When someone disagrees with someone else's opinion they are often branded a troll. It's easy to say. Everyone who writes on these boards are trolls because they too will disagree in some form with another at some time.  The word troll was 'invented' by the leftards which now has no meaning, certainly not in my world. An easy 'get out clause' for I don't know how to win an argument with you so I'll brand you a troll.

Finally, and again, I have nothing against the person, however I have to question whether he has all the qualities and business acumen required to operate such an 'alliance'. Personally, I don't think so.  One only has to take a look at his videos to the way he conducts himself, even on camera, which does not inspire me with confidence one bit, and to think that my money would no doubt be helping to expand his own business in some shape or form would not sit right.

So, for those people who want to subsidies a private business then go right ahead, but for those that can 'see through the trees' you are better keeping right away from it all.

What I have heard, that in February a new organisation will be starting up which will be free (all the time). Watch this space....

Thanks for reading........ 

[sean oregan]

Sean - i am not disagreeing with you (or agreeing with you!)

Its just your comments seem a little two faced - on the one hand you yourself have been 'Trolling' Nick on here for the last few weeks and yet when someone else shares their opinion on something they are small minded and green eyed!

I see where your coming from but I don't feel I have been trolling (and if it comes across that I am I apologise) I just dont like the way nick does things (I won't go into detail) hence why I would never go back onto site or buy from him.

Why I made my comment was because people are assuming he used money from tacca to buy his rug cleaning equipment (so what if he did tacca is his and he should take a wage for his efforts ) and saying things about living in a rented house wtf has that got to do with anything

[derek west]

I'm just amazed and inspired by how many have gone for the £250 option,

Got loads planned for members.

ps..

Adwords bootcamp is (finally) coming soon with £100 off for members.   

and loads more to be announced including a free rug cleaning day in Feb 2017.

you heard it here last 

[Robert Watson]

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