[Matt.]

I have been scouring for a good deal on a decent pressure washer, loads of deals on here and on eBay.
Thing with used ones, u just never know when it's guna go pop.
Price range from 900 to 1700ovno.

I have just ordered a brand new gx390 set up 21 lpm 220 bar, I have asked for it on a plate as apposed to trolley, but this increased price slightly.

Done the deal with Rutland pumps @ £1400 inc vat.

2 years warranty

So for those of you who are in a similar situation and thinking of buying a set up, weigh up ur option.

 

[Tom-01]

I have been scouring for a good deal on a decent pressure washer, loads of deals on here and on eBay.
Thing with used ones, u just never know when it's guna go pop.
Price range from 900 to 1700ovno.

I have just ordered a brand new gx390 set up 21 lpm 220 bar, I have asked for it on a plate as apposed to trolley, but this increased price slightly.

Done the deal with Rutland pumps @ £1400 inc vat.

2 years warranty

So for those of you who are in a similar situation and thinking of buying a set up, weigh up ur option.

What was the reason for having it on a plate instead of a trolley?

[Matt.]

Tbh mate, I don't want to be moving it out of the van, I want it bolted down, van is already quite full and I have ordered 75 metres of high pressure hose.

And I dont think the mrs will be ok with me putting it somewhere around the house, i don't have a unit or garage.

This is what's best for me, everyone to there own.

[Tom-01]

Tbh mate, I don't want to be moving it out of the van, I want it bolted down, van is already quite full and I have ordered 75 metres of high pressure hose.

And I dont think the mrs will be ok with me putting it somewhere around the house, i don't have a unit or garage.

This is what's best for me, everyone to there own.

I was just wondering mate.

Will you draw the water from the tank in your van? Can you put a link up of the 75mtr hose please?

[Matt.]

No probs mate, that's the idea to help each other. Yes mate water from tank, 500l

I bought all the bits from Rutland pumps inc the hose, they come in 25 metre sections with quick release.

Reason I bought new was........ No matter what the seller tells you a machine could pack up a week later, 2 year warranty with new. Priceless

[Plankton]

That's about the same at Jetmac. Thought they would be less without the trolley though.
Good idea bolting it down, no f***er will steal easily.

[Richy L]

I use a big metal reel for my PW hose. It costs around £300, but worth every penny!

[Plankton]

It's a fecking nightmare with 20-30 metre of hose never mind 75m, you'd need some size of reel for that or are you getting two 40m reels.

[Matt.]

Jet mac wouldn't put it on a plate, contacted q washers they were the same and price from both was more than what I paid.

Bottom plate is bolted down to van with rubber shocks on top and plate with machine on is bolted to the top of that.

Hose comes in lengths of 25 meter, options was there starting at 10m

I just thought with being from the van 25 is a nice number and then 50 - 75

[Tom-01]

Jet mac wouldn't put it on a plate, contacted q washers they were the same and price from both was more than what I paid.

Bottom plate is bolted down to van with rubber shocks on top and plate with machine on is bolted to the top of that.

Hose comes in lengths of 25 meter, options was there starting at 10m

I just thought with being from the van 25 is a nice number and then 50 - 75

Good idea.

Ive got 3 30m hoses, one is old and not great. One is blue and leaves marks absolutely everywhere! The other one is new and great. I will get some connectors.

I agree buying brand new. I've got a GX390 on a trolley, had it about 2.5 years and its been brilliant. I've just had it serviced ready to use again.

[Matt.]

Rutland told me these hoses won't leave any marks anywhere - the Italian ones ??

[Tom-01]

The blue one I got from dual pumps leaves marks.

[Ashley Brothwood]

I personally would have had it on a trolley And strapped that down in the back of the van. I've done that with mine, it usually stops there and I built a frame over the top with a 50m reel on the top. The reason why Id have it on a trolley is once in a while I get a property where the only access is round 5 houses down a small alley or something similar where I have to take it off the van, wheel it down the paths and run it with a shorter extension piece more like 20m or 30m and have a wheelie bin as a buffer tank. It saves having a few extension pieces on the end and having the back of the van open when your working away

[Dougaldum]

Jet mac wouldn't put it on a plate, contacted q washers they were the same and price from both was more than what I paid.

Bottom plate is bolted down to van with rubber shocks on top and plate with machine on is bolted to the top of that.

Hose comes in lengths of 25 meter, options was there starting at 10m

I just thought with being from the van 25 is a nice number and then 50 - 75

Good idea.

Ive got 3 30m hoses, one is old and not great. One is blue and leaves marks absolutely everywhere! The other one is new and great. I will get some connectors.

I agree buying brand new. I've got a GX390 on a trolley, had it about 2.5 years and its been brilliant. I've just had it serviced ready to use again.

what did you have done for Service just wondering because I haven't add mine serviced for 10 years and it does need one and how much did it cost

[Matt.]

Ashley, for me mate, it's all commercial work at the moment, I did think long and hard about it but having it bolted down in van is they way forward for me. I suppose there's pros and cons to both.

[Rob@Blast off]

Good shout on bolting in the van as there just to big and heavy to move about,
Is it a twin feed with a gearbox?
Got one of those blue 30m hoses and its a nightmare.

[Tom-01]

Jet mac wouldn't put it on a plate, contacted q washers they were the same and price from both was more than what I paid.

Bottom plate is bolted down to van with rubber shocks on top and plate with machine on is bolted to the top of that.

Hose comes in lengths of 25 meter, options was there starting at 10m

I just thought with being from the van 25 is a nice number and then 50 - 75

Good idea.

Ive got 3 30m hoses, one is old and not great. One is blue and leaves marks absolutely everywhere! The other one is new and great. I will get some connectors.

I agree buying brand new. I've got a GX390 on a trolley, had it about 2.5 years and its been brilliant. I've just had it serviced ready to use again.

what did you have done for Service just wondering because I haven't add mine serviced for 10 years and it does need one and how much did it cost

Fully cleaned. Cleaned the carburettor. New air filter and spark plug fitted. Changed oil. Cleaned fuel tank and pipes. Sorted the pulley cord and spring so it works properly.

£131.27 inc VAT.

[Tom-01]

Good shout on bolting in the van as there just to big and heavy to move about,
Is it a twin feed with a gearbox?
Got one of those blue 30m hoses and its a nightmare.

Same here. Constantly going over the area getting rid of the blue scuff marks.

I phoned up and demanded they send me a black one and not have to pay for it because it's £180! They did and didn't want the blue one back so it sits there as a absolute last resort if needed.

[Tom-01]

Ashley, for me mate, it's all commercial work at the moment, I did think long and hard about it but having it bolted down in van is they way forward for me. I suppose there's pros and cons to both.

Matty L how do you get your commercial work?

[davids3511]

Didn't think a 390 would run a 21ltr pump. Though you needed at least 13hp for that. Before anyone say it is, the new 390x is not 13hp.

I am after 21ltr too. Would be really interested in what you find it will do in real life.

[kempy]

500 litres wouldn't last long , unless your feeding it as your working . ??

[handyal]

I've been looking for something similar for the last month or two. Does your new pressure washer have a 2:1 reduction gearbox fitted?

[davids3511]

I've been looking for something similar for the last month or two. Does your new pressure washer have a 2:1 reduction gearbox fitted?

It will have if its 21ltrs a minute. Its probably an interpump ws202 and an rs500 gear box.

[Matt.]

This may help you David. Was one of first emails I got from Rutland

Basically they build what ever you want. Hope it helps


We can certainly put together a good package deal for you we do a package in competition with Slipstream (basically a better machine at a better price).

My first question to you would be to ask whether you would like a machine with a gearbox or direct drive. Whilst many claim that the gearbox is the only way to go, there are an equal number who set their store with direct drive. To be honest 10 years ago I would have said that a gearbox was absolutely necessary for the longevity of your machine. With the modern E3 series pumps I would not be quite so sure. There is an advantage to the gearbox but the price increase is usually around £150 to £200 depending on whether an RS99 or RS500 gearbox is used.

My second question would be based to an extent on the answer to the first. What sort of pressure would you be looking at for your machine. If you go direct drive you get a higher pressure and higher flow than with a gearbox unit as you loose 1.3HP to the gearbox.

If you are looking at 21Lpm you would get roughly 220Bar direct or 190Bar via a gearbox.

The next question is would you like a return to tank system or internal bypass / control set. the return to tank system is the best as it prevents water re-circulation within the head of the pump whilst the trigger is closed, this reduces the chance of the water being heated within the head which can cause seal damage if left for an extended period. The alternative does recirculate the water within the head of the machine but again this is becoming less of an issue with the newer pumps, this also negates the need for a return line.

Would you like quick release fittings on your hoses and lance or screw type couplings (M22).

What Hose length would you like? 10 / 15 / 20 / 30 metres.

Would you like a turbo (rotating nozzle)

Would you like your lance ends on quick release on a single lance / as different lances & triggers, so one for washing down / one with a turbo nozzle on. Or would you like a split lance - Single trigger with 350mm lance then a coupling to allow you to attach a 700mm lance extension with turbo nozzle or wash down jet. ( This is cheaper than having two complete lances and leaves you less likely to misplace a quick release jet if you had one lance with Q/R jet / nozzle)
Either way I would supply an Industrial MV2012 Trigger made in Italy.

What size whirl away would you like? 18 - 22 - 24 inch? All come on castors some sizes are available in stainless steel rather than polycarbonate.

There is also an IGX type engine in the 390 range which auto governs depending on load these save up to 30% on fuel costs. (Drops revs when trigger closed revs up when opened again, only revving to the demand of the pump whilst in use)

[davids3511]

Cheers Matty, hadn't realised there were so many options.

[handyal]

Thanks for the info as it gives me something to think about.

[CleanClear]

So for those of you who are in a similar situation and thinking of buying a set up, weigh up ur option.
 

I just made my own up. £160 for a 6.5 HP engine (Brand new from fleebay), electric start so no faffing with a pull cord  , although there is one fitted. £260 for a 150 Bar pump (from BE pressure, they advertise here on this site) , 12 lts per min, £40 for a battery. Few other little bits and bobs i had to add.
 Roughly, £500. Brand new, turn the key away ya go !!

[Matt.]

That's very good cleanclear, but I wouldn't know where to start mate.

Why don't you share your knowledge with us. I would be well interested.

Let's start with either an empty trolley or in my case a plate.

I know ur saying you only built a 12 lpm, but by using a bigger engine and/or pump, surely you could build it to suit. Ie 21lpm,

If you was to buy all parts new and build a 21 lpm machine with around the 200 bar what would you anticipate  the total cost being for parts, no labour charge just time taken to do this. 

[CleanClear]

JUst having a quick glance and i'm no expert, i'm just finding out myself as i go along.
Electric start engine ebay, £225............item number 260965229447
Interpump ebay, 200 bar, 21 LPM, £568............item number 171633946834
You'd then need a 12 vollt battery for it, some inlet adapters, and outlet adapter /unloader valve. So thats maybe another £100.
 It takes seconds to bolt a pump onto an engine as they are just like meccanno sets 
Thats roughly £880 ? For a brand new turn on the key .

As you say you can just fit it on a skid plate to leave in the back of the van which is basically what i have done.

[Matt.]

Good stuff, it's one thing buying all the parts, another putting it all together, for me anyway.

Clean clear - pressure washers services,  found and established on ciu !!!

Any machine built on request

If you know your stuff it may be worth it

[davids3511]

You could shave nearly £300 off that too with a 2nd hand pump and gwar box. One went last week for £285.

[Matt.]

I know using used parts, it could be ur day on eBay an get all kinds for nothing, but if you was to buy new, and build yourself I think based on them prices above you could build a 21lpm for less than 1000.

If anyone is close to buying a used one I nearly bought one off a guy in Scotland. It had a reel fitted over top of trolley, he wanted 1200 and I bought new for less plus vat.

[davids3511]

That's the thing. You could by 2nd hand and it be wrecked. At least new you get a guarantee.

[Jettaway]

Just keep in mind that engine is not a genuine Honda.