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Tank problem
« on: February 04, 2004, 06:49:03 pm »
Got a new tank 2day :)
1 problem :-/  The fill hole in top is 1.2- 2 inches in diameter and i can't get my hand in to fit a normal side float valve can any 1 help please

http://i24.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/2e/a5/f7_1.JPG

am thinking about using the level indecator

stevekennedy

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2004, 07:02:04 pm »
What is the float valve for? Is it for stopping the filling process when tank is full?

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2004, 07:42:49 pm »
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Got a new tank 2day :)
1 problem :-/  The fill hole in top is 1.2- 2 inches in diameter and i can't get my hand in to fit a normal side float valve can any 1 help please



You are not going to be able to get a float inside the tank, even if you do get your hand in.  Looks like you will just have to use the indicator on the side, but you will more than likely flood a couple of times.

You could link it up to another tank the same height, and fit the float valve in the other tank, the water will stop and start a lot as the water levels out.

You could maybe set up a small feeder tank above the tank you have and have the float valve in the feeder tank.  

Peter

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2004, 07:47:20 pm »
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What is the float valve for? Is it for stopping the filling process when tank is full?


Yes stopping the in flow

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2004, 08:02:38 pm »
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You are not going to be able to get a float inside the tank, even if you do get your hand in.  Looks like you will just have to use the indicator on the side, but you will more than likely flood a couple of times.

You could link it up to another tank the same height, and fit the float valve in the other tank, the water will stop and start a lot as the water levels out.

You could maybe set up a small feeder tank above the tank you have and have the float valve in the feeder tank.  

Peter


How about if i cut a hole in the top fit this http://www.diy.com/images/products/image_x/0039961747747_lc1_1_x.jpg  
to the side and silicon it back together again would that work peter?

stevekennedy

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Re: Tank problem New
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2004, 09:12:57 pm »
Maybe this is too simplistic, but you could fit a bypass hose at the top of the tank and have it running to the outside of the van. Ok, it will overflow, but it will not flood your van.

If you can time your fill then shouldn't be a big problem.

I've got one on my tank in case the float valve fails.

SteveK

Peter Fogwill

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2004, 11:13:33 pm »
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How about if i cut a hole in the top fit this http://www.diy.com/images/products/image_x/0039961747747_lc1_1_x.jpg  
to the side and silicon it back together again would that work peter?


Yes it would work, but it is a pity you have to cut into your tank. you can get some smaller valves than the one in the picture.  If you are cutting into the tank then it would be better to cut into the top, and as small a hole as possible.  You would maybe be better getting a piece of plastic a bit larger than the hole and screwing it on with some self tapers, you could use some silicon as well.

The valve in the picture looks as though it won't let you fill the tank right up, you may want to look at a different type.

Peter

Old_Master

Re: Tank problem
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2004, 12:42:06 am »
You can easily fit an electronic cut out switch to the tank.

APS_PureWash_Sys

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2004, 01:15:13 am »
Yes Hozelock do a meter type thing that will turn off after so many gallons have gone through it. But you must set it to the right amount or you will have water every were 8)
cheers Andy

PS trying to cut corners will get you nowhere apart from frustrated!!
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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2004, 01:44:37 pm »
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Yes Hozelock do a meter type thing that will turn off after so many gallons have gone through it. But you must set it to the right amount or you will have water every were 8)
cheers Andy

PS trying to cut corners will get you nowhere apart from frustrated!!


am not trying to cut corners trust me am trying to do it the right way, just didnt think that i would have a problem like this!!!!

Any idea where i might be able to buy this Hozelock meter type thing ?

thanks for your help every1

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2004, 01:48:20 pm »
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You can easily fit an electronic cut out switch to the tank.


yeah that would only work if i was using a pump on my fillter, and am not .

If there is one the will cut the water off any idea where i can get 1?

APS_PureWash_Sys

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2004, 03:41:55 pm »
sorry my mistake!!

it was not a meter type thing from hozelock

it was a timer type thing from hozelock

around £30 from B & Q
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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2004, 04:09:58 pm »
Thanks again for your help i think i have sorted it out  ;D

Philip Hanson

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2004, 07:06:17 pm »
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You can easily fit an electronic cut out switch to the tank.


You can get a float switch that closes when the water reaches a certain level.  If you connect this to an electrically operated valve it could be used to stop the flow when the tank is full.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/module.asp?CartID=040205170046819&moduleno=12167

Or if you are filling using a pump rather than just water pressure, this could be used to in a very simple circuit to control the pump.  I can do you a circuit diagram if you would like.

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2004, 12:03:41 am »
Hay up silly
are you starting as a newbie again or have we got two silly's it's bad enough with one!!!!! ;)
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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2004, 12:12:03 am »
Thanks for all your help folks, I have sorted out my problem  :)

Philip Hanson

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Re: Tank problem
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2004, 12:20:56 am »
There's only one Silly,  and it's me!  (One is all you need)

Yes I thought I'd re-live newbiehood, it being nearly spring and all.

Seriously though, I had to delete my old profile and create a new one.  I kept my "silly" name as it would be confusing if I hadn't.  Also I am, of course, ever so silly, so it suits me.

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